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Posted by: zhanyajun Posted on: 2003-09-22 12:42 转载:使用Struts感觉有点象脱裤子放屁 http://www.apusic.com/club/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=3788&tstart=65&trange=50 其实框架多得很，大家为什么都用struts呢？ 比如有WAF,Tapestry,Turbine,WebWorks,OfBiz,RealMethods等等，当然我们也用struts, 但却不知道为什么不用其它的，只是老大说用什么我们就用什么？天知道他的老大知不知道为什么要用。 请问大家有用其它框架的嘛？ | |
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Posted by: auauau Posted on: 2003-09-22 12:55 我不太喜欢struts... | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-09-22 22:41 Well, it does something, might not be the way we want. I am using mine. | |
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Posted by: jfml Posted on: 2003-09-23 10:16 其实所有的设计模式从某种意义上说都算“脱裤子放屁” | |
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Posted by: arjooe Posted on: 2003-09-25 09:56 Strus好用！ | |
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Posted by: yiw16 Posted on: 2003-09-25 19:30 选用opensource的平台/产品/框架 一定要小心，尤其是选用其作为商业产品的基础时 一定要有选用有人气的产品。 | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-09-25 22:18 yiw16 wrote: WHAT? | |
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Posted by: elephi Posted on: 2003-09-26 00:41 有人气意味着关注的人多，那么一旦出问题，解决你问题的可能性就大..... | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-09-26 01:09 differ, enormously. | |
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Posted by: ajinjin Posted on: 2003-09-26 08:56 介绍得多哈 | |
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Posted by: hwx Posted on: 2003-09-26 09:31 floater wrote: Hi! floater, How about your own framework? Would you please give us some comments on how to choose a framework? | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-09-26 22:29 Most of the points are covered in the book expert one-on-one, only a few points more based on the book: 1. AA - Authentication and Authorization, this piece should be completed seperated from applications. 2. Whenever possible, make you code flexible. But there is a down side too - too much configuration settings. 3. Deployment is not a trivial issue too, take it into account. | |
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Posted by: lemon2000 Posted on: 2003-09-29 11:02 我不想争论Struts好与不好 我只想说，我公司去英国培训的姐姐（我辈惭愧丫@_@） 学回来的就是Struts架构实现MVC模式 | |
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Posted by: hitaco Posted on: 2003-10-02 23:04 用习惯了自然会觉得方便和它的好。不过相比其他的web framework, 最大的优点是用的人多,从而在项目开始时可以降低风险 | |
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Posted by: dy18 Posted on: 2003-10-03 01:12 struts节省时间和经钱 | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-10-03 01:46 dy18: In lemon2000's post, his sister's company is wasting money to send engineers to learn just Struts, how come it saves money? hehe... Kidding,  .lemon2000: No offense, just a joke, /bow. | |
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Posted by: hitaco Posted on: 2003-10-07 12:53 in our company, new employee take one week to learn struts, and that's enough for junior developer's. no much cost | |
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Posted by: 老刀 Posted on: 2003-10-12 15:51 开源很多东东都很好啊，struts的实现很好，它的设计思想也很好，很值得看看，做商业应用在一定程度上是非常适合，但要说完整那可能真的差一段距离。 有种这样的感觉：全部用它解决，感觉它太小，而一部分用它中，另一部分不用它感觉总是不爽 | |
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Posted by: altonpeng Posted on: 2003-10-13 19:03 struts还是不错的 | |
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Posted by: charleszq Posted on: 2003-10-13 22:48 floater wrote: Maybe Chapter 2 of this book can answer this question. When we do projects, we should pay attention to many issues, not only which specific framework or technoloy we can use. In general, we should eliminate any possible RISKs and finish a successful project. | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-10-14 07:59 No, too general for my points. I am talking about concrete framework, not general concern/ideas. | |
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Posted by: charleszq Posted on: 2003-10-15 12:38 Sorry, Floater, I did not express myself clearly. What I mean is that the subject of this post "使用Struts感觉有点象脱裤子放屁" sounds bad. This conclusion comes out without any carefully thinking. | |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-10-16 00:16 I don't know how they think since I can't get in the reference link on the top. People like or dislike something, depending on their exp and pref. But I prefer to talk the reasons. | |
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Posted by: charleszq Posted on: 2003-10-17 11:07 I think I've expressed my idea clearly, which is, the subject of this thread sounds irrational. As to the reasons, I mentioned the word 'RISK', which, I think, is the main reason to support my idea. In my point of view, struts is a wonderful framework to do MVC things, but this does not mean a team must use it or not. To avoid the risks in a project, if your team knows much about another wonderful thing other than struts, and you can control the risk if you use that one, you can use it. In fact, we are now using a similiar thing as Struts which was developed 3 years ago by our own company, though it is not so good as struts in nowadays, but it IS powerful before struts comes out. BTW, the reason I quoted your thing in my latest post is that I just wanna add some complementarity to say the subject of this post is irrational. | |
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Posted by: hitaco Posted on: 2003-10-20 20:53 这个标题很刺激 | |
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Posted by: jacob Posted on: 2003-10-21 18:43 看到好多兄弟用英文一篇一篇的。。。 还是觉得英文看起来累。。。 | |
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Posted by: HenryYu Posted on: 2003-10-31 18:16 我觉得信息系统开发专著的是数据持久层和业务逻辑层的开发，至于表示层，说白了就是针对用户使用的，当然对界面和交互性要求很高，象struts不支持javascript，把所有的代码放在server端来处理，无论速度和用户交互性来说都是很大的挑战！建议不要盲目使用呀 | |
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Posted by: bjwz Posted on: 2003-11-26 12:12 其实所有的框架都是这样的，感觉只是侧重点不一样吧。 | |
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