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1.對J2EE版的建議與批評

Posted by: heida
Posted on: 2003-05-03 16:04

把標題換一下，改為通用的話題啦！

heida大俠的原題是：失望！
原貼文是：昨天发了个求助，怎么就没有人能帮我呢？

求助指 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=2&id=25349 哪个高手能帮我？
heida大俠在裏面說：
我是新手，谁能帮我写出基于JavaMail的邮件接收和发送系统的程序流程图？

以下是小的的小小意見：
這裏不是付費服務，提出的問題未必第一時間有人回應啦！
請大家給點耐心，也不要隨便開新帖子。
更請儘量把標題寫得清楚到題啦！

如果小的不是版主，一般不會看類似「請高手進來幫我」的話題，因為小的不是高手嘛 Embaressed

也不會看標題只有「急！」這類話題，因為小的腦筋轉得比較慢，沒有辦法和耐心有限的大俠好好溝通 Wink

提問題前最好搜尋一下，小的用Google經常能找到有關的資料，不過儘量不要搜中文啦！
FAQ版上有篇〈提问的智慧(How To Ask Questions The Smart Way)〉，很值得參考啦！

2.Re:失望！ [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: jameszhang Posted on: 2003-05-03 16:20 你的题目太大了，我想要想写出一个完美无暇的邮件系统不是一个简单的事，收发邮件的程序写过，但我哪个不敢称为系统。

3.Re:失望！ [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: scottlai Posted on: 2003-05-03 17:26 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=2&id=25537&sty=3&age=30&tpg=1&ppg=1#25537

4.怎样增加积分? [Re: heida]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-05-03 22:17

常有新人問：怎样增加积分?

小的回答：
請您參考 Java FAQ 和站务管理版塊上的有關話題啦！

基本原則就像阿熊大爺說的：先奉献，再享受

個人的準則是：
★提供好資料（尤其是原創的），立即得分；
★積極參加討論，為人解決疑難（包括提問後，自已找到答案，與人分享），會按情況加分。（明顯地未曾搜尋舊話題，便重複提問舊問題者，可能會遲一點啦！）
★用心

5.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]

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Posted by: floater
Posted on: 2003-05-04 00:22

1. Never ask anyone to do your work, do your own homework, everyone has a life. Nobody is supposed to substitute you in anyway, anywhere, because your life is yours.
2. If you want to get help on the jumpstart, then ask around to get some directions. I am sure people would like very much to share their experience with you.
3. Don't expect an answer very soon. Instead do a search first before you ask, that's a quicker way to get an answer. There are several reasons for this, people are busy, or not an easy question, especially those questions like "why doesn't it work on my machine?", or no enough information to pinpoint what's wrong, etc.
4. ALWAYS ask concrete questions with contexts, like error messages, code segment, machine, server, etc.

My two cents, not particularly target to the originator, but just some common sense in my view. Hope it's helpful for newcomers.

6.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-05-13 12:46

有人覺得，轉貼好文章不容易，要求給分。

小的會這樣回應：
小的的標準可能比較嚴格，因為小的在這個論壇獲益良多，覺得分享和互相幫助就像天經地義的事情，所以要做得出色、用心才會打分囉！

轉貼很花時間嗎？找一篇好文章可能很不容易，但是剪貼上來卻不見得有什麼難處？
所以小的會挑剔地要求：
標題可以加粗體或加顏色；
下面的不當斷行可以修葺
pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("insert into accounts (id, ownerName, ba
　　lance) values (?, ?, ?)");
錯字可以改正；
文章裏過時的、有缺失的資料可以補充更新；
等等，或者加以引申討論，
這才是小的心目中的不容易、花時間、用心嘛！

7.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]

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Posted by: floater
Posted on: 2003-05-13 22:01

yea, agree wholeheartly.

A lot of times I really hate this kind of piling up a bunch of less accurate, irresponsible, not proactively checked information. If you post something, make sure it's working, up to date. Good for you because you learn something, good for others. Nothing small, nothing big. Don't try to optimize life by divide them into small or big things because everything counts when you accumulate experience.

Another trend that I don't like is that there are just so many big, empty, title-grabbing articles. Please, don't add more in this category.

8.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 -- 有關打分 [Re: heida]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-05-28 05:36

發現小的的一個回應 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=2&id=26185&sty=3 得了1分(謝謝 dapan 版主)。大家如果看過，應該覺得這個回應沒什麼特別啦！一定是積少成多，dapan 版主意思意思。由此可見不必一定是精闢的回覆才可得分，只要用心討論，熱心助人，版主們一定不會吝嗇給分的啦！ Smile

阿熊元老開了投诉版，小的怕給人投訴 Embaressed

，一定儘量配合。

剛剛給 snowbug 大俠提供的 JSP page that will recursively pre-compile all JSP pages 加了分。 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=2&id=29965&sty=3

ccic134302 大俠近日轉貼了幾篇，由於都是中文，小可沒力氣細看啦。 Embaressed

如果能按規矩列出原文出處，將會加分。

FinalFantasy 和 afeilb 兩位新來的大俠都熱心助人，如果能夠繼續保持這股精神，小的一定加分。

9.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: why Posted on: 2003-06-08 09:34 FinalFantasy大俠是在本版得分的嗎？否則小的想多加一分啦！ struggle大俠那篇建立并运行一个简单的BMP的全过程也得了分。如同struggle大俠自言，深度和技術成分未至圓滿，但是熱誠可加嘛！繼續努力啊！

10.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: FinalFantasy Posted on: 2003-06-10 01:03 啊，，没有注意，自己都让人加分了。。。。我都不知道是哪里加的。。-_-p。。。那就给多一分好了。多多益善。啦啦。。只是自己的兴趣来这里的，why不用如此客气。。：）

11.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: why Posted on: 2003-06-17 11:10 FinalFantasy大俠：还是留待下次再加分啦！正想给 Jove 大侠在 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=2&id=33997 有关 Jakarta Commons FileUpload 的例加分，dapan 版主已先出手了。

12.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 (misunderstanding...) [Re: heida]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-06-28 03:37

floater wrote:

Under any case, no dirty word please.

If you feel someone is not polite, get attention from moderators, PM them. But replying with dirty words is not right either.

Writing in Chinese or English is of everyone's own choice, just a language preference, just like oral language: Mandarin or dialect.

Most of the time, this is a misunderstanding. Someone makes jokes, someone else misunderstands it. Try to understand each other's intention, keep the bad temper under the sheet. Flying with dirty words won't get anywhere, just a waster of our time, rather than get the info you want.

13.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 ── 推荐精华帖子 [Re: heida]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-07-11 13:59

小的在 Java Certification 版块上 http://www.cjsdn.com/post/view?bid=4&id=38867
建议开一置顶的话题分类放“精华”话题的连结
同学发帖子推荐“精华”（要写简单的理由喽），
版主接纳推荐后更新第一个帖子（方便同学使用，否则要看遍全页很累人嘛）。

小的打算在J2EE版这样做。
暂时简单划分为以下类别，请各位大侠多给意见
1 初阶/进阶
2 疑难/实例/分析
……
还是留给大家讨论一下，有好建议或者分类法的打分；
将来推荐精华帖子的同学也会酌情打分。 Smile

14.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: hitdemo2002 Posted on: 2003-07-29 09:29 我认为设一般交流\|疑惑\|精华一般交流--自己的一些想法,一些转贴的文章,发表想法,尽量少涉及具体疑问疑惑--看书,学习中遇到的问题,解决不了的,看不懂影响继续学习的精华--好的原创,译文,转贴,实用例子

15.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: edgeloner Posted on: 2003-09-08 18:08 支持精華﹐很重要﹐ 還有"顯示您上次登錄後的最新貼子 " 如果能把re過濾掉就好﹐可以很快知道有什么需要的新貼可讀﹐ 而不是10几頁的翻重复的re.......

16.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: edgeloner Posted on: 2003-09-17 18:06 建議將 code code 得顏色修改一下﹐黑白反差太大﹐第一眼還可以﹐ 看多兩下﹐刺眼﹐看得很累很辛苦。我每次看都是用老鼠把要看得code筐起來﹐看起來才舒服一點。

17.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: heida]	Copy to clipboard
Posted by: zyzhang Posted on: 2003-11-04 17:57 It seems there are a lot of people here just want to get some books and materials or reference. There are few questions related practical project development.There are indeed a lot of problems to solve real world applications.Hopefully, we can create features subjects on this column.

18.Re:對J2EE版的建議與批評 [Re: zyzhang]

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Posted by: why
Posted on: 2003-12-22 00:11

zyzhang wrote:
It seems there are a lot of people here just want to get some books and materials or reference. There are few questions related practical project development.There are indeed a lot of problems to solve real world applications. Hopefully, we can create features subjects on this column.

Will work on this when our forum is upgraded to 1.4.2.