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Posted by: RichardCheung Posted on: 2003-12-09 20:35 本人学完JAVA基础课程，而已经快毕业了 面对1200多页的JAVA类库，真的不知道从何看起 或者不需要看？ 我想向JAVA方面发展，但不知道学什么东西对不久就要找工作的我会比较好？ （还有一个学期,已经学完数据库概论，面向对象概论,操作系统，软件工程） ） 是学XML，还是jsp,servlet? j2ee? j2me? UML要会用到什么程度？ 先学什么再学什么？只有一个学期了，还要做毕业设计````` 苦恼死了，各位大虾给点意见吧，我现在是快毕业的迷途小羔羊啊``` | |
| 2.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-12-09 23:51 Forget about j2ee, j2me, or any fancy hype. Go to a quiet, nice place, have a good mood, then ask yourself what you want, what you want to be. I think this is more important than java, c__. The interests you have on subjects will drive you for the next 10, 20 years, through java or anything else. | |
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Posted by: nothing Posted on: 2003-12-10 08:27 我是毕业好多年的迷途老羔羊啊... | |
| 4.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: floater] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: wes109 Posted on: 2003-12-10 08:53 floater wrote: 好！ | |
| 5.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: whoami13 Posted on: 2003-12-10 08:56 理论和实践是两回事，实践会验证理论的正确性，也会推翻它，想做技术，还是先踏踏实实的将写程序的基本功练好 | |
| 6.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: scottding Posted on: 2003-12-10 10:30 Java的类库现在已经非常庞大了，你现在学习的时候是不可能全面的学习到所有的东西的，我觉得学习的时候抓住基础类库，在实际工作的时候再深入的学习各个用到的。 | |
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Posted by: hitaco Posted on: 2003-12-10 10:33 的确，兴趣是最重要的。 当然光有兴趣也是不够的，很多人其实是不合适做这一行的。 floater wrote: | |
| 8.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-12-10 12:16 Yea, but it's hard to see. I have colleagues who were doctors, lawyers, geologists, etc. And they are much better than comp majored. If you are young and energetic, that's your advantage, make full use of it. Go explore the unknowns, where you've never been before. Get to know friends, who are your "wolf pack". A wolf pack is much easier to survive than a buffalo. Build things, instead of demolish them. Over the time, when you are getting older, you have something you can count on and then settle down. | |
| 9.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: 良牙_ Posted on: 2003-12-11 10:25 其实只要掌握了几个基本的package,对于其它的类库都是在需要解决某个特定问题的时候才去仔细研究(这也应该是研究这些类库的最好时候).最重要的仍然是java的思想啦. | |
| 10.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: RichardCheung Posted on: 2003-12-11 15:15 我的兴趣和目标就是先做个好的程序员啊！ 但是光学JAVA的基础是不够的啊，就是想请教各位，想再深入学习应该首先再学些什么 | |
| 11.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: subarasiyi Posted on: 2003-12-11 15:43 类库不要死学，用的时候查查就是了，根本不用当回事去“学习“ 另外，现在搞企业应用开发时，很多时候都是xml和java技术同时用到 UML嘛知道是什么东西、能侃几句就行 很多知识都是在工作中学的，在学校打好基础就行，要养成有耐心的习惯 解决问题要保持信心..... 我就罗索这么多了，呵呵 | |
| 12.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: bluejava Posted on: 2003-12-11 16:33 有篇 java 高手之路可以看看..... | |
| 13.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: rlinbb Posted on: 2003-12-11 17:42 RichardCheung wrote: 你应该去实际的编码，然后看看别人的方法和架构 从基本的东西去理解，会让你很扎实的做好程序员这个角色。 至于以后，你是否会是个好的程序员，还得看程序员是否真是你的兴趣和目标，你的好程序员的定义是什么？ 假如达到这个目标后，你的兴趣和目标呢？ 所以，我觉得floater老大建议的很对，也许真的应该想想，你的真正目标是什么？ | |
| 14.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: floater Posted on: 2003-12-12 00:20 You know, it took me 12 or more years to get what I have now. I slept 4 hours a day and ate pizza for half a year, and burgerking for another half of a year.  , funny, huh? You've got to love it so you can do something like this.(Well, sleep well and don't get your brain demaged, you need that).Get you hand dirty and start typing. Here are some of areas that I think a good developer should have. 1. Know the systems, windoz, linux, unix. There are others, IBM, apple, etc. You should be able to install them, config them for normal usage. This will give the general feeling and handy tools. 2. Get to know several most-widely-used languages, c, c++, java, perl, unix shell, so you know most of the aspects of a programming language. There are some classic excellent books, read them, practice them. 3. After you swallow a lot, it's time to sit down and digest them, hook different areas together, like how to use sort in C, how to sniff your network traffic, how to create GUI interface in java.... 4. After you get familiar and comfortable with these topics, you may think whether you get quicker, better, cleaner solutions, like how I can just write code once and run in different apps(build a lib), how I can manage the structure for different interface, like web, GUI, etc. 5. Size does matter, when you have millions of lines of code, how you can get in touch with them is a big issue. Different versions, different components and communication between them, etc, are just a few topics among many of them. Along the way, build your tool set, so you won't fight naked and you have more firepower, especially when you are under pressure. Along the way, build up your buddy list, so you can call them 2 am in the mornings(hehe..., kidding) when you have questiosn. And above all, enjoy the journey. | |
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Posted by: RichardCheung Posted on: 2003-12-12 10:37 All you gave are good suggestions```` Thank you all```` AND there is also a problem that is whether I could find a job starting my IT road if I just master Java programming? | |
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Posted by: RichardCheung Posted on: 2003-12-12 10:41 My definition of "master java programming " is just programming with Java freely | |
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Posted by: cliff Posted on: 2003-12-16 00:24 XML，jsp,servlet同时来 | |
| 18.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: SIM57530 Posted on: 2003-12-16 10:53 web service is a good choice. However, it did involve a lot. Those skills may involve HTML, Javascript, JSP, Servlet, XML, and JDOM, JAXB, etc. Don't think the Java will do all the job. HTML and Javascript still are essential to the front end. Understanding SQL, database will help you with XML. you have to made decision to master some of them. Some of them you may decide to just understand them. Just as previous replies, it all depends on what you like to be. | |
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Posted by: 空心菜 Posted on: 2003-12-16 22:18 楼主说的 偶们都学了 开的课 | |
| 20.Re:关于JAVA类库及学习与找工作的问题 [Re: RichardCheung] | Copy to clipboard |
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Posted by: plfsh Posted on: 2003-12-18 16:32 路是自己走的。找工作重要的是能吹、我当时找工作、就不会吹、所以什么都找不到。所以找工作前多看看流行的技术、每一样都看一点、不要被别人一说就闷了、那样就完了。 没有多少必要去看什么高手之路、每个人的情况都不一样、适合他的未必适合你。当做小说看就是了、一般这种高手之路里的高手都有超乎常人的毅力和魄力、大部分人都没有、所以真正能借鉴的少只有少。 总之、在中国想找一般的工作重要的是会吹、如果你想去微软什么的、那就努力吧、不过大公司其实也很看中人的潜力、至于怎么让人家觉的你有潜力、就只好靠你自己捉摸了。 | |
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Posted by: yeehya Posted on: 2003-12-24 15:15 plfsh,我想知道你是那一年毕业的.呵呵! | |
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Posted by: 独孤牧 Posted on: 2004-02-04 01:04 floater's view deserve attention! | |
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